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May 14, 2006



I am sorry here, did I miss something. This is a military mission and border patrol missions. If they, the CAP has anything to do with this patrol and that is, to turn over half of their aircraft fleet to their agents and mix them with the UAV's that are doing some of the work now. Having being in these meetings with the military, they have stated, do not want CAP pilots flying those type of missions. The lawyers and the military do not want poorly trained pilots and the rotation of these people along the 2000 miles border would be to costly for housing, food, flight training and etc. You would have to have 10 members per airplane for a 24/7 operation. 10 x 200 airplanes = 4000 crew members and we have not even got to the maintenance end of things. Hell, our wing is lucky to find three crews for one day mission, much less 2000 crews. I doubt if the CAP has a 1000 pilots in the whole country that are IFR rated or current at night right now and those members work for a living. We are not bombing submarines anymore. All of these planes would have to re-equip with night senors and the like during the day. Not a easy task. Yes, it can be done but not by the CAP. The CAP Commander in the coming months will be so busy trying to save his own skin, that this subject will not be on his radar scope.


A couple of your points have some small merit but "poorly trained pilots"?

I don't know where your from but speak for yourself there chief.



"Poorly-trained pilots?"

Lost me on that point. If we were poorly-trained, we would be augering into terrain all over the place. In SAR missions we engage in maneuvering flight at altitudes from 500 to 1000 feet agl. Poorly-trained pilots would be having up close and personal encounters with Planet Earth trying that.

Night qualification is no big deal. legally 3 takeoffs and landings do it. CAP, I'm certain for a mission like this, would require a night checkride.

Let me think about this, and I'll come up with a plan that can work.


Rep. Charlie Norwood has a plan incorporating CAP among others. His article can be seen at

Worth reading.

John Aylesworth

We don't have to take the *entire* misson, at least to start. We could start in selected areas, perhaps in lower traffic sectors of the border, thereby allowing the Guard to focus their better trained and equipped forces on higher traffic areas. In the interim, we build our capabilities to perform this mission and expand where practical. As far as whether we have the resources now (aircraft, crews, etc.) that's a chicken vs. egg argument. If we have the mission and begin performing, that provides the basis for a strong recruiting (and retention) campaign and for requesting funds for the right tools to do the job. We *can* do this mission - we do it every week in California (albeit during the day).

Al Sayre

You don't need to be in the air 24/7, just frequently enough to keep them guessing when you'll be back again.


Well, we've bought all the toys... slow scan video, Archer, etc. We'll need some night vision goggles.

The key would be to coordinate CAP aviation assets in with everybody else. There would have to be a co-located command post to coordinate air assets. If I recall correctly, these command posts are already established in various areas. Depending on how much of the border each district covered, I would establish 1 CAP support base for each district headquarters.

There would be a base commander responsible for coordinating the CAP effort with the Border Patrol HQ. Border Patrol would provide the mission taskings. Comm would be established by the observer with the BP HQ after takeoff.

Logistic support would be accomplished by long-term rentals of units in a nearby hotel. BP or CAP would have to contract for rooms. A Headquarters office could be established there, too. Operations should be set up at the airport. Pilots and crews from all over the country could come in, check in to the hotel, and stay for as long as they could beg off their civilian jobs.

There should be an overall CAP command which would include all the bases. This would be a good assignment for the Deputy Commander, if we had one.

A pers section attached to the Task Force command would coordinate arrivals and departures of crews. With a little planning and coordination, we wont be stuck with too many or too few.

I would TRY to get some folks... perhaps retirees with no civilian job... to volunteer at each base to be "Duration" personnel. This will provide continuity to the overall CAP effort.

I'd also put a PAO staff at each base. No sense missing an opportunity to blow our own horn.

I do see a big problem of security, though, and I'm not sure how to solve that one. We will need to protect the aircrews and the planes from attack or sabotage, since we will be messing with hombres peligroso. I'd have to address that with the BP guys, since I'm sure they have security over their own assets.


I misspoke about our pilots being poorly trained. We have a wide range of trained pilots, some fly only 10 hours a year to 1000 hours all over the world. I am truly sorry about that.

But what I am saying here, you will have to be trained for the mission. How many of you guys flown in the mountains at night at 1000 feet or less. Think about that, you flatland pilots. I only said that to wake you up to the fact it can get very scary. It is no fun with a little weather thrown in and icing to boot. I use to train like this in the mountains and I was buying underwear all the time with a hell of lot more horsepower and equipment under my ass. The CA,AZ and NM pilots should know what I am talking about here, but the Midwest and some eastern pilots don't.

And the gentleman that was saying we don't have to fly 24/7, OK I go with that but you will have to have crews ready in stand-by mode when you get the call. So if you mann with three shifts in the air or just sitting standby you are burning duty time. I am sure you will have to be in the air within 10-15 minutes not your home base 2 hours call out time. That is what I was saying. This is not as easy as it looks. Just the time spend at isolated airports standing by for hours on end in the middle of the night will take its toll.

Not a person mention the training on the new equipment. If I have my numbers correct here, it will be the same type of senors that are on some of our UAV's with data links on the K band stuff. Very light weigh stuff but powerful enough to get the job done. But do any of you know how to fly a UAV and operate its senors?


Really V1, I don't think you have a clue, nor do you speak like a pilot.

Tell you what, you handle the senors (didn't know UAVs carried mexican gentleman)an leave the rest to us.


First of all, V1, I am NOT certain that we would need to have crews "Scramble" for missions. Even with a reserve, the C-172 can give about 4 hours of loiter time over the target area.

Secondly, I personally have zero plans to fly at 1000 feet agl over mountainous terrain at night. CAPR 60-1 says that the minimum altitude over terrain in night operations is 2000 feet agl. 2000 feet will give plenty of opportunity for the Archer, NVG's, and IR stuff to spot illegals looking for those streets paved with gold.

Why would we fly at 1000 feet at night, when the Predator is up around 18,000?

Major Carrales

Aveighter & John you well know I live in or near the areas in question...

What can we expect to see happen? What type of timeframe is possible...specuations please...

CAP Mission Senarios, please?


Read Rep. Norwoods proposal referenced at the web address above in my post earlier.

However, having just listened to the Presidents address on the issue, I think the fix is in. I will be surprised to see any substantive development involving our operations, or anything else for that matter. I apologize for sounding so negative. I'm having a hard time seeing the light here.

Joe, best you break out the old remington 870 and stand by.


I didn't hear the President. I was busy at my retirement job that funds my CAP habit.

Time frame to set up this program? I'd say we could have it up and running within 30 days if everybody would work together.

NHQ would have to task wings to provide aircraft, an advance element would have to coordinate use of airports as bases and contract with local hotels, as well as coordinate with the BP command.

I am concerned about security, so that would have to be addressed in the planning, and communications... I'm sure our radios are not compatable with the Border Patrols, so a 24-hour comm watch at heach HQ would have to be manned.

Once the mission requirements were established, a task force structure could be tailored, and the 5-paragraph order written.


I see the discussion is turning to one about who should be allowed to run for Pineda’s position. So is Alexa the candidate, or is it Greenhut? Who is the bigger sleez bucket?

I too have had a close and ongoing involvement with Alexa as well as Greenhut. Drew Alexa has had a great deal of influence and time invested in the Archer program. Yet keep in mind he too was one of the people who dug the hole for Glasgow. Alexa had a lot to do with spreading the rumors about how Glasgow didn’t have a job and how Glasgow lived off of support from his ex wife, and how Glasgow used a CAP vehicle exclusively because he couldn't afford to buy one of his own.

Pineda may be calculating, but he is predictable. Alexa is ruthless, calculating and an emotional rollercoaster. Alexa will manipulate, use, abuse and toss aside anyone who does not “yes sir” him. I am an employee at CAP and I have never posted on the blog and am driven to do so this time because if the shakeup at NHQ results in Alexa being named vice or the commander, he will surely sell CAP to get rich off of it. You think Pineda is bad. Pineda wants the title and the satisfaction that he beat the USAF. Alexa wants to milk CAP for his personal gain.

Let’s look at Alexa. His highest accomplishment outside of CAP is that he was a salesperson. He supposedly finished CLC and SLS both on the same weekend. Wonder how he pulled off being at two programs on the same day. His wife has a duty assignment of Government Relations Officer, one more paper position to help her professional resume. She does not have the achivements to make LTC, but she is. He has not had a job in over six years. Alexa lives off of his wife’s income. She as a sales person travels a lot leaving him alone which gave him the time to spend on Archer. Alexa has no technical knowledge to head the Advance Technologies Group. Pineda, John and the big wigs know this, but they let him be. All one needs to do is say something in a technical sounding manner and he will buy it. I have seen the millions of dollars he has spent and heard John Salvador and him talk about how the Archer systems are faulty and the systems CAP received being intermittently functional at most times. The contractors hate him. Any student of the Archer Operator training who spoke up about the lacking functionality was immediately removed from the program and prevented from getting the rating. Alexa has told staff at NHQ that what he does is of greater importance than anything or anyone else because he is funded directly by congress. He thinks just because NHQ is in Alabama, that the staff is stupid. He calls us hicks. Alexa does not like the cadet programs. He said he does not care for kids, never have and never will. He feels the money spent on Aerospace Education and Cadet Programs are better spent on Archer.

The people he has, the so called scientists are only those who “yes sir” him, the old geezers who need something to retire with. The contractors conduct Archer training at NHQ. You should hear the things those guys talk about. Again since we are the stupid hicks from Alabama I guess, no one seems to care if we hear what they are saying. Head of training from the contractor called Alexa mentally unstable in describing a situation to someone else. They were talking about some question Alexa's scientists had asked of the contractors. The head trainer for the contrctor told the other staff member "just say its in the algorythem, how is Alexa to know". I have seen some scientists come and go. The scientists who question the design or the proper functionality are tossed aside. Archer is not an original idea of Alexa. Alexa just happens to be the person who pushed others aside to gain control.

Considering what Archer can do, Archer should be a part of the Homeland Security Group. But that’s not the case because Alexa hates Greenhut, the head of Homeland Security. Alexa hates Greenhut so much that he routinely makes fun how Greenhut after being named to head Homeland Security at CAP, even though Greenhut had no previous experience in the subject matter or for that matter remotely involved in law enforcement or intelligence, now contracts himself out as a security expert all because he can say he heads Homeland Security Group at CAP. Alexa talks about how Greenhut was an audiovisual guy in high school and that Greenhut's technical abilities are limited to turning on a projector. Greenhut gets setup by Alexa to look like a fool infront of militery officers. Each time Greenhut speaks, the militery participants are told inadvance the inconsistancies to look for. Its like a chess game to Alexa. Pretty soon its going to be checkmate for Greenhut.

I know for a fact that Alexa has been looking to recruit Archer operators with real world experience and business men to join him in starting a Hyper Spectral company. This is not speculation, I have heard Alexa talk in the hallways and in Pineda’s office (Alexa uses it when he is at Maxwell). Alexa thinks we the staff at NHQ are dumb. That when he mumbles and hides in corners he can hide what he is up to. We are like one big family. we share what we see and hear. We know what he is up to. I wonder if the contractors who created the systems know that Alexa is stealing the ideas and the technology. He is constantly trying to transfer members into the Advance Technologies Group so he can own them. He gives them Lt. Col. Rank and buys their loyalty. Look at those in his group. They all have high ranks and bogus signoffs at best to show for qualifications.

Alexa is such a loose canon that John Salvador, the head of operations for all of CAP is scared of Alexa. I have seen John walk away like a dog with his tail between his legs when Alexa yells at him. When Alexa is at Maxwell (that’s quite often) John becomes Alexa’s slave. John waits on Alexa hand and foot and goes home late every night. I remember how when Alexa got irate and hung up on a conference call John stayed on to sooth the contractors. Alexa called John back and yelled at John for undermining Alexa by staying on the call with the contractors. John is a good USAF guy. Those of us at NHQ feel Alexa is blackmailing John with something to keep John castrated. Even the legal staff at CAP is afraid of Alexa. Alexa in the heat of the moment yelled at John saying that the CAP legal staff are bunch of loosers who couldn't get a real job as an attorney. Alexa said what does a logistics guy know about writing contracts. Alexa even brought a hired gun attorney to intimidate the CAP attorneys.

CAP is paying for all the expenses of Alexa’s travel, stay and food. Some months when John is with Alexa, John's CAP credit card bill is over $25,000.00 paying for Alexa's stuff. I have heard Alexa tell John "just take care of it". Alexa travels extensively meeting with government agencies and presenting the Archer technology fully knowing these agencies are creating and have their own better systems. Again we at NHQ are not as stupid as Alexa thinks. We know how to use Google to look up what the various government agencies have. They don’t need CAP to fly missions. He is doing this so that he personally can get recognition and grab business as a Hyper Spectral consultant and expert. Alexa treats us at NHQ like he is the national commander. What we can't get from Google, we get by paying attention to conference calls and conversations on speaker phones. Sometimes just acting dumb and asking him. He gave me a big lecture with eyes rolling and head bopping about how it’s not right that Pineda is giving the medal of Valor to his cronies. He was furious. Later he admitted that given the opportunity he would do the same for his friends.

Alexa hates immigrants. He has several times made comments like “damn Mexicans” and he refers to Pineda as a wet bag. Alexa constantly talks about how Pineda is fat, not in physical shape to be a General and represent CAP, and how Pineda can not speak two sentences without hmmmm and ahhhhhh. Maybe Alexa should become the vice commander so that Pineda can be minipulated and out smarted by Alexa. Pineda is no match for Alexa. Alexa will eat Pineda alive.

Alexa’s master plan is to become the next national commander. What does he stand to gain, EVERTHING. He will build up his private business using CAP Archer program as a selling tool and all the while have CAP pay for all his expenses of flying around to meetings with government agencies. The BOG and the rest of CAP will in the meantime praise Alexa for all he is doing. How cunning is he. Alexa should be forced to reimburse CAP for the money he has spent on building his business giving presentations about Hyper Spectral just to be known by Government agencies. Pineda is just ego driven. Alexa has a master plan that is absolutely personal.

Those of you who think you know Alexa think hard about how and what you know. Just because you have been involved in Archer and think you know the man, you only know the guy’s façade. Have you seen how blushed he gets and how he trows temper tantrums where he huffs and puffs. He has had heart trouble in the past and every time he huffs I feel we are going to have to resusatate him. I have nothing to gain by writing this letter. I am not a CAP member, I don't have a rank and I will serve as long as I do in the same job doing the same thing. Its about time the general membership got to know who Alexa is. Alexa is a moody, conniving, calculating, desperate man looking to retire by selling out CAP Archer for his benefit. Very few people outside of NHQ know all what I speak of. Since he is so cavelier at NHQ, it will be difficult to figure out who here wrote this email. If you hear about a NHQ member being shot by Alexa, cry a tear for me.

Posted by: NHQ-Hick | May 15, 2006 at 15:07


You see John, there is no hope in your mission. Just stick to flying your CAP plane in the local traffic pattern and show the flag there because the top leadership has screw each one of us, that has put so much time into this organization in trying to make it great. I see congress taken the charter away from us within the next year or so. What a cat fight at the top it always run down hill to the troops in the field.



You're right about that... Shit rolls down hill, I somehow I'm always living in the valley.

The fix is to make the National Commander slot an Air Force 2-star position, and the Deputy National Commander a CAP 1-star, but the howls resulting from toes being stepped on from that move would be deafening.


First of all, CAP has done a stellar job of improving its flight safety. The pilots run the full gamut of any program that doesn't pay for flying, there are some good and some bad. The National Commander has wings, anybody ever fly with him? His girlfriend is actually pretty good, although she is a much better sensor operator than stick, at least that's my opinion. But night over the mountains with night vision goggles? I don't think anybody on normal CAP proficiency is up to that. My rule is to stay out of the clouds (and the dark) unless I am getting twenty hours a month, and I don't know many CAP pilots that are doing that except the ones that fly for a living.


I for one will not support CAP Operations in a Military environment for the simple fact that CAP cannot mesh with the Military. The Air Force as seen in many posts has distanced them selves from CAP and the National Guard is a totally different arena and a different mindset than that of the Regular Air Force. The Last thing they need is for some pushover Pilot coming in there and telling them what to do.

Midway Six

OK CAPWATCH you've got a right to your opinion...

But if you read this blog, you'll see all sorts of great examples of how CAP can mesh just fine with active duty, reserve, and guard components.

Then there is my own experience: I deployed to FOB Stennis for a week last year and was encamped right next to the active duty Air Force (across the street from the Marines.) W

We conducted disaster relief operations for a week and meshed just fine.

I fly a C-182 Skylane onto regular Air Force bases a few times a year. No problem there.

Then there's the fact that I've trained along side reservists in the field. Again, no problem. In fact, we got nothing but kudos from the warfighters.

The CAP can mesh with the military just fine.


Midway Six:

I gotta agree with you on this one. I don't know what CAP that CAPWATCH belongs to.

We are regularly inspected by the USAF on evaluated exercises, and have to meet their standards. Every ELT/SAR is an Air Force operation. Our last find here in Group 4 (Florida) was a distress find down near Lake Okechobee, and the PJ unit out of Patrick (920th Rescue Wing) brought a helicopter down to assist after the CAP fixed-wing asset located the wreckage. Unfortunately, everybody was dead, but the CAP-USAF acted as one force, which we, essentially, are.

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