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May 13, 2006

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Major Carrales

There are two things I cannot stand...

1) Agendism, where people stand so close to the lanterns of their political, economic or social positions that they are blinded to any good done by differing such positions.

2) And the politics of petty ambition of the nature described in the letter.

I will, however, reserve any judgement for the moment this epistle is verified.

I would not, however, resigned my CAP membership becuase of this sort of thing. I believe in the organization, not any flawed man or woman that might trod mud across its hallowed halls.

If there is chicanery...let it come into the light that we might smite it and move on to our missions.

Administartor...I await your confirmation or negation of this letter.

Major Carrales

JohnKachenmeister

I'm withholding judgement, too. I want to re-read the letter and mull over its implications. Assuming the letter to be accurate, I want to figure out how much actual misconduct in involved, versus how much bad feeling is the result of a personality clash between two very strong individuals.

NIN

No offense, John, but various and sundry allegations surrounding the named players have been swirling for 8 or 9 years _at_least_. How much more information do we need?

CAPWATCH

If Pineda can rule for 6yrs total CAp will be in a death spiral. This man thinks he is untouchable. Can anyone confirm the NEC Passed this?

NIN

It is my understanding that the NEC voted, but I believe that under the current constitution & bylaws, its truly the BoG who can change the C&B to reflect this, so perhaps it was the NEC saying "yes, this is something we want to forward to the BoG.."

Which means its time to tell the BoG "Not only no, but HELL no."

(The above is just my humble opinion. Your mileage may vary. Slightly)

CAPWATCH

I hope & prey that those in the CAP elevated Echelon who read this blog put a stop to Antonio Pineda's Quest for the Empire and Launch a complete & full investigation into all of the allegations against him starting with his Florida Wing Commandership and move forward or should call him Darth Vader and CAP is now the DEATH STAR?

BobdKirby

Well sounds like the office in a High School in Los Angeles. I have some confidence in the Office of Special Investigations and the U.S. Air Force. And common how much "Empire" can a Civil Air Patrol 2 star General grab, this ain't Rome and General Pineda's not Galigula.

This connects the dots for me like Oliver Stone's "JFK".

As I walked back to my car I had a more than vague feeling that while maybe everything on the screen wasn't factual, there is more than enough up there to SCREAM for an investigation.

I grew up in Chicago, so dead people voting, political hiring, and financial impropriety are just the status quo of the "City that Works".

But this.

On ANY level you look at it makes NO SENSE.

We're not talking about increased salary, benefits, or sweetheart contracts. We're not talking about holding onto power for a perceived "greater good" as an active component general with a world view might try and do. (see Col. Nathan Jessup)

Its not like CAPFLT001 can reshape the mission at will. Some have said Maj. Gen. Pineada wants to move CAP from pseudo-military to pseudo-law enforcement. Well you can reassign active component people on a whim, but you can't require volunteers to do anything, and many I have spoken to (myself included) have no interest in competing with LEA's.

And if you remove the CAP-USAF relationship, we're sunk. Our local agency interaction is so poor today that we are lucky we're tasked to do anything. Without a federal mothership, we're an answer without a question (and also without planes, funding, access to military resources, etc.).

Being a volunteer organization which depends on credibility and reputation for tasking, recruiting, and funding, this kind of nonsense CHEAPENS what little glory there is to be had in wearing the stars.

It makes absolutely no sense.

You just can't get rich or powerful in a, real-world sense, stealing from CAP (as Rex is accused of). And what is the pleasure
presiding over a court of empty uniforms? Its one thing to kid yourself if you come to power in an ineffectual organization, but it’s a whole different game to set up and propagate a self-serving organization that does nothing but in-breed seat warmers.

Is this more confirmation of our worst fear? That despite all the HLS posturing, and spotty successes, CAP really >IS< just a Good-'ol'-Boy Flying Club? And the reason for such poor leadership is that this is how they want it? Is burning holes in the sky on the tax payer's nickel, and looking cool in uniform the only reason they show up?

With regards to any sort of intervention on CAP-USAF's part, don't hold off a trip to the concession stand thinking they will come bursting through the door in the third act. Our status as a private corporation, barring any actionable malfeasance, etc., means we can pretty much do whatever we want.

CAP-USAF can probably impact funding, yank our USAF-style uniforms, and make it difficult to interact with the military, but its been pointed out by Col. Hodgkins that CAP-USAF's role is largely oversight and advice, they have little say in the far reaching plans or day-to-day operations of CAP.

Good Lord I hate this bovine excrement!

Where have all the heros gone?

"They were career military, all of them. Proven Officers with real ability. But in the military you don't get trusted positions just because of your ability. You also have to attract the notice of superior officers. You have to be liked. You have to fit in with the system. You have to look like what the officers above you think that officers should look like. You have to think in ways they are comfortable with.

The result was that you ended up with a command structure that was top-heavy with guys who looked good in uniform and talked right and did well enough not to embarrass themselves, while the really good ones quietly did all the serious work and bailed out their superiors and got blamed for errors they had advised against until they eventually got out." Excerpt from "Ender's Shadow" by Orson Scott Card.

"Nearly all men can withstand adversity; if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln

JohnKachenmeister

I'm still considering this letter, and I'm not sure what to make of it.

First, if you take everything Glasgow says, and assume it to be Gospel Truth, what, exactly has Pineda done? All that the letter alleges is that Pineda seems to have earned an M.B.A. from the Joseph Stalin School of Management. While none of us like that, being a big jerk and surrounding yourself with yes-men is not illegal, and (unfortunately) not even uncommon.

Secondly, I was shocked, shocked I tell you, to learn that cut-throat power politics is being played at the top levels of an organization! Seriously, and without paraphrasing Inspector Reneau in "Casablanca," what Glasgow alleges Pineda to have done is not unusual in the RealMilitary, at the 1 to 3 star level, at least. I worked as a general's aide, and served on a general staff for six years, and I've seen this kind of politics before.

Third, and some other guys have hit this point, the question comes to my mind: "Why?" If you are going to build an "Empire" why build one based on CAP? That's like having a military coup to take over the government of Somalia. So what? Once you got it, its more of a liability than an asset.

Lastly, I've got 25 years in on the street as a policeman. I've been in the "Conflict Resolution" business at the pointy end. We've got one side of the story at this point. I'm keeping an open mind.

JohnKachenmeister

By the way, have we had a big problem with robots posting comments here?

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From Eclipse:

Sorry on the AnonCoward post up there, I was / am signed in as me, but I don't know why its not showing my name.

aveighter

John, you're right. Altho my first impulse was to reach for the long knives, a cold beer and some reflection time intervened. We should seek the rest of the story.

Having said that, however, this seems to bear witness to the apparent fact that some strange goings on are afoot at the top. And they seem completely adverse to the direction many of us seem to want the organization to go and are counterproductive to the means to get there.

We have such serious issues at the pointy end of our homegrown spear with training, funding and retaining/maintaining a cadre of dedicated and mission capable personnel. In some locations there are stellar units ready to go at the drop of a hat, in the rest it's iffy at best. In one spot the local sq. or wing has a seat at the table with the other players while in many places CAP is a standing joke.

We have one of the largest civil air fleets on the planet but I wonder how many mission capable (actual not paper) crews we would field if a national or regional scale infrastructure disruption should occur. God-forbid. Better carry a big line of credit because, at least in our area, you will be self financing the operation at whatever the cost of avgas spikes to as there is no government rate or billing mechanism that bypasses the front line personnel. And how will we get that bake sale done in order to keep the hanger lights on?

With all this in mind, what we get is the opportunity to appear on the scene looking like a cross between Pan American Airways in its' heyday and an eleventy star French Admiral. Man, I'm pumped up now. I've never liked the grey epulets but I like the French Navy even less.

So, John, I'll take a second look but brother it ain't lookin good so far.

JohnKachenmeister

Aveighter:

I agree it ain't looking good, but to me anyway, the scenery is familiar.

There are lots of generals, who rise to the top in peacetime, that have no clue what's going on in their units, and could care less. They usually don't last long once they are deployed into combat, but until somebody at the 4-star level picks up on that incompetence, troops pay the price.

Like that female Army general in Iraq whose units were involved in the prison scandal. Her defense (incredibly) was that she didn't know that the battalion assigned to the prison was assigned to her brigade. She's now a colonel (retired), but the troops she failed to supervise are in prison. She was promoted to BG in spite of the fact that she got arrested as a colonel shoplifting $50 worth of makeup from the Base Exchange at MacDill AFB.

Politics is a part of life at the top. I'll never understand it.

aveighter

Quite right John. I wonder who is at our 4-star level?

Annonymous

As a recent change over from the cadet program to the senior program I have seen a lot. Most would say that because I am only 21 that I don't have the time in this organization to know about anything.

Some background for you. I have served under Glasgow numerous times in numerous positions. I most recently served as the Cadet Commander for National Blue Beret in 2005. I achieved the Eaker Award and numerous other awards. Currently I am serving as my units ES Officer. I have known Rex for all 5 years of my CAP career.

He is an outstanding leader and is a great asset to this organization. Honestly how many other people can spend enought time in the field to keep every spot on his/her 101 card except Chaplain current? I have 14 qualifications and that runs me thin.

He has done so many things for this organization, especially on the Cadet Program side. He was constantly trying to improve the organization and Cadet Program. He was constantly thinking about what would be best for the "troops". Is it going to cost us a lot, is it logical, is it needed. I think that some people forget to ask these questions before taking action.

I am very loyal to Glasgow as a friend and person. He has been willing to offer advice anytime that I have asked. He is just a person that cares about others. Oddly enough, I would think that is why all of us joined this organization. We care about people and we want to help them.

I don't know what will come of all of this but I am very upset. I think that what has progressed here is very wrong. Legel or not, it is an Integrity issue. And do we not teach our cadets and our organization to have Integrity? If the leaders at the top can't show Integrity, then why should we teach it to our youth?

In closing. I believe in the duty that this organization performs. We do a great service for the public and the country. We should never faulter nor fail. We should continue to perform our duties until we are not permitted to do so any more.

"That Others May Live"

CAPWATCH

What would Pineda Gain by serving 2 consecutive terms?

CAPWATCH

After looking at the Crystal Ball, I see Membership falling even more. Our Relationship with USAF is already TAXED enought as it is and this little stunt from Pineda will push this Organization even further down the chain and out of reach

JT

Well.

There are some pretty obvious things.

1- Something smells at NHQ.
2- There was a fairly obvious power play to remove our last National Commander. Legit reasons or power play? Either way... *shrug* it's not healthy for the organization.
3- It seems very suspicious that the NEC would move to amend the C&B to allow the National Cdr to hold multiple terms following what has happened.
4- Our NB and NEC seem to be working on many initiatives, such as new uniforms, but don't seem to be putting out anything that really going to help our membership slide.

anon

I believe what BG Glasgow has said in his letter is true and I believe it is legitimate. MG Pineda is a power hungry fool who is willing to sell CAP down the river to keep himself at the top of his kingdom. The Air Force laughs at him and cuts the budget because they know he is weak and can't do anything about it. He's so power hungry he wants to just stay in command no matter how much it hurts the organization. How many more things can the organization endure?

anon

Its real. I got it from my wing commander who got it from Rex Glasgow. I'd comment under my real name but it's not worth taking on the "man" and losing like countless wing and region commanders have already found out. Pretty soon, he'll have replaced all the region commanders and most wing commanders. Nobody will have the guts to oppose him then except maybe the BoG. Hope he doesn't somehow suggest doing away with it and convince them it's a good idea . .. .

Major Carrales

I will have to interject some sanity here before we continue...

This sounds a bit more paranoid that I am comfortable with. Let us allow cooler heads to prevail and set aside our passions in favor of reason.

If all this is so, and Rex Glasgow is correct in his perspectives...what is the next logical step? How does an investagation commence? Is it warranted?

I don't know any of these people personally and, being from South Texas, it matters little who is in charge beyond the Group Level. Thus, from behind that veil of objectivity...I urge caution and tact.

Let us find out all sides of the story.

Midwaysix, how about an interview with the Major General himself to offer his take. Then an interview with Rex Glasgow and a few region commanders.

Major Carrales

Smokey

The letter on it's face sounds legit based upon the details included and how some of the issues alluded to are panning out or have already panned out. But I would still like confirmation. I'm a skeptic.

I think the big issue, as addressed by the annon cadet is INTEGRITY. If the issues brought forth in the letter are true, then the issue of integrity is at the forefront. The cadet is absolutely right about the necessity for intergity at the top if it is to permeate the orgaznization. Especially where the cadets are concerned. As a member of law enforcement I am concerned about the appearance of impropriety coming from our Natl commander- a fellow law enforcement officer.

From what I have read, and I know there are two sides to the issue, it sure smells bad. Do we need another issue for the Air Force to further distance themselves from us? The corporate uniform is a very obvious end run. I certainly hope the AF will not punish the rest of us who do wear the AF uniform for acts commited by the Natl Commander. Should "berry boards" (or worse)come back ...I'm outta here. Haven't our top personnel thumbed their noses enough times at the AF already. I'm way down on the food chain in this organization, but I'm sure tired of those at the top pooping in the punch. The poop rolls down hill and seems to stop at our level in the trenches.

I too have no interest in moving away from quasi military to quasi law enforcement. I'm a current 34 yr veteran police officer and I have no interest in playing cop when I'm off duty.

The issues beg for an investigation. One that is above board and fair. Possibly conducted by the AF IG or Judge Advocate, to insure that there is no undue influence or improper tactics used.

The whole issue, including the uniform end run, is another cloud over CAP. And the clouds keep building. Just as conducting an air search is impossible while IFR, the organization can only survive if we can operate VFR.

Ours is a noble cause. Let's not muddy it with issues of itergrity.

NIN

I have good intel that says this letter has sparked a good deal of "intense interest" on the part of the BoG.

CAPWATCH

Anything that MG Pinedea does affects all units below that level all the way down to the newest member. If you think that just because you are in a Group or Squadron and his decisions dont affect you in any way that is a very bad misconception. You know the old saying,, CRAP rolls down hill and who is left holding the empty roll of Toilet Paper? The Membership

RogueCAF

This pales to the bad old days of good old boy EE and the berry boards. At least he grabed for power from the Air Force and didn't harm fellow CAP members for just his own agenda. If this is held to be true, I will have to see if as a current active duty member I can call for the USAF IG to take a look, or maybe my congressman/woman...

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